“I never thought it would happen. Where I come from, I didn’t have dreams like that.”
Kolisi experienced hunger and violence as a child but after being given a scholarship to a white school, he developed his rugby skills on the pitch and opportunities opened up for him.
He added: “I played rugby because I enjoyed it, I played it because it kept me out of trouble and I played it because most of my friends played it. I definitely didn’t think I would be sitting here now.”
Kolisi’s journey to the talismanic World Cup-winning skipper began with club side the Stormers in 2017 when he was appointed as captain by former Springbok centre Robbie Fleck.
“I’ve always been the joker in the team, the naughty one. Coach Fleckie came to my wedding and heard me speak. After that he said, ‘I think you should lead the team’,” Kolisi said.
“He gave me the captaincy but it took a while. I would always be the last one at the party, the drunkest one in the room, and now I must be something different.”
A year later, then-head coach and now director of South Africa rugby Rassie Erasmus promoted Kolisi to become captain of the national team. But Kolisi said stepping up to become Springbok skipper, with all of the history of the role, came with its own difficulties.
“Here at the Springboks, that was tough,” he added.
“It was really difficult at the beginning because I don’t think there’s any greater honour, other than playing for the Springboks, to captain a team like this with its history and everything. Being the first black captain, it was difficult.
“In my mind I was being captain of the Springboks, it’s a big thing already, but for so many people it meant so much more and I didn’t understand the weight of it.
“I was fortunate to have the players we have in the group; Duane [Vermeulen], Eben [Etzebeth] who has captained the team, Pieter-Steph [du Toit] who has captained the team, Handre Pollard – I honestly wouldn’t have done it if I didn’t have the guys that we have and also the coaching staff.
“Coach Rassie [Erasmus] has known me since I was 17-years-old and [head coach] Jacques [Nienaber] since I was 18. They know what kind of person I am and they built things around me.”
Only John Smit, who won the World Cup in 2007, has more Tests as Springbok captain with 83.
Kolisi only returned to action in this summer’s warm-up with Wales on 18 August, three weeks before the start of the World Cup.
He partially tore his anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in April, which made leading his nation to a second successive World Cup seem remote.
Kolisi will become only the second man to lift the Webb Ellis Cup twice if South Africa retain their title, after New Zealand’s Richie McCaw won it in 2011 and 2015.
South Africa are well placed to qualify for the last eight having beaten Scotland and Romania in their first two pool matches before losing to table-topping Ireland in their last game.
However, they will need a win over Tonga as third-placed Scotland, who have two games still to play, also retain hopes of progressing from Pool B.
An international season that started on 5 August in Cardiff ended for England on Saturday in Auckland with a feeling of deja vu in the air.
Just like in Dunedin a week earlier, England had stayed in the fight admirably in the first half, rallying either side of the break to take control and threaten to pull off a historic win, before frustratingly fading in the final quarter as the All Blacks bench proved decisive.
So how should England supporters view the 2-0 series defeat? A tour that showed Steve Borthwick’s side are moving in the right direction? Or a huge missed opportunity?
“Absolutely both,” said skipper Jamie George, who led the group with distinction on his first tour as captain.
England have played South Africa, Ireland and France over the past eight months, in addition to two games against New Zealand. The aggregate score against these top four sides in the world is 101-111, with one narrow win and four narrow defeats.
“We are definitely trending in the right direction,” vice-captain Henry Slade said.
“We are pushing the top four sides now and getting better and better week by week.”
The challenge for England now is to get on the right side of these tussles.
“I don’t want to revisit mistakes,” reflected Borthwick on Sunday in downtown Auckland, shortly before starting the long journey home via Sydney and Singapore.
“In each of those games, we’ve been in a position late in the game in a leading position on the scoreboard.”
‘I need to coach them fast’
There are some key areas where England need to improve if they are to become a genuine force on the world stage.
Keeping the scoreboard moving when matches tighten up – England scored only three second-half points in Auckland and five in Dunedin – as well as shoring up the scrum and being more streetwise are all areas highlighted by Borthwick.
“Test matches at this level are tight encounters, they are decided generally by a penalty or a drop-goal, one moment, one missed kick,” he said.
“That is the nature of it and the players have experienced that, we are going to be better for it. Every one of these has to be a learning experience.”
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After relying on an older core to reach the World Cup semi-finals last year, Borthwick says 2024 has been the “second phase” of his tenure as he goes about building a new team.
“So far in these eight Tests [in 2024] we have had eight new caps,” he explained.
There is youth all across the backline. Immanuel Feyi-Waboso is 21. Fin Smith 22. Ollie Sleightholme, 24, made his debut in New Zealand.
Up front, 22-year-old Fin Baxter has come through. Chandler Cunningham-South at 21 and George Martin, only just 23, have continued to emerge. Experience, though, wins tight Test matches. And while Borthwick and his coaches can’t buy experience, they aim to accelerate the players’ learning.
“The England pack has changed from what was traditionally a very big powerful pack to more of a younger, dynamic pack,” Borthwick explained.
“You can see that younger pack developing. I need to coach them as fast as I can.”
‘We have to develop at tight-head’
While depth is building in some areas, other positions still look light with tight-head prop of particular concern. Too much is being asked of 37-year-old Dan Cole, who has now won more caps at prop than any other Englishman.
The scrum creaked in both Tests against the All Blacks.
“I’ll have a conversation with Coley and see what he wants to do,” said Borthwick. “But quite clearly we need to find some more tight-heads. That’s going to be a big development project.
“Will Stuart has done really well in the last couple of Tests. The New Zealand scrum is very good and outside the scrum I thought he did many things very well.
“Part of my next step is to do that kind of planning and decide on the right thing to do. I’m trying to have consistency in selection and build the number of caps, not just individually but together, so we maximise the cohesion.
“That’s clearly with a longer-term goal in mind but we need results now as well. That’s always a challenge the England head coach has. We need results now and we need to be preparing for several years in advance.”
‘World-class Ford to return’
Behind the scrum, England need more back-up to Alex Mitchell at number nine, with neither Harry Randall or Ben Spencer given much game time. Mitchell played the whole 80 minutes in Auckland.
At fly-half Marcus Smith was trusted with running the side throughout the tour, and while he missed some crucial kicks in the first Test against New Zealand, he excelled in Tokyo against Japan and set up three of England’s four tries against the All Blacks.
Namesake Fin came off the bench twice but didn’t have long enough to impose himself.
“I thought Marcus has done some really good things, when you see the ability he has to see space, to create tries, to open up a defence,” Borthwick said.
Meanwhile, the England boss was unequivocal when asked whether 96-cap George Ford still had a role to play after missing the tour through injury. If Ford returns to form and fitness, he could well wear number 10 again in the autumn.
“He is world class and I thought his performance in the Six Nations was exceptional,” Borthwick said.
“The three of them – Fin Smith, George Ford and Marcus – it puts us in a pretty enviable position.”
‘We have fight and spirit’
England’s players will now get a minimum five-week break before returning to their clubs. The new Professional Game Partnership between clubs and the Rugby Football Union has been agreed, which will give Borthwick slightly more control over a core group of 20 or so players.
Their next assignment in a white jersey will be at Twickenham in November with – fittingly – the All Blacks first up.
“We owe them one,” said George.
“To get the results we need to be tactically smart and we’ve got to be really well organised,” continued Borthwick.
“But fundamentally, there’s got to be something that sits underneath all that and that is the fight and spirit that we have within the team.
“What you see in this England team now is fight and spirit, and we need to make sure that gives us a good foundation for everything we do going forward.”
The Saracens back row was tireless with ball in hand and earned his second man-of-the-match award of the championship after winning the same accolade for his performance in last month’s win over Wales.
His impressive development in the role as England’s first choice number eight follows an excellent World Cup campaign and Borthwick says the 26-year-old is “delivering” on his targets.
“It is phenomenal, the thought process he is going through and how ambitious he is as a player to get better,” Borthwick said.
“Ben played his first 15 games off the bench. Even in last year’s Six Nations he played a run of games and then he was out.
“I think he feels backed. I get the impression he feels he is growing as a player and he wants to keep getting better.”
‘Everybody involved with England is under incredible scrutiny’
England’s surprise 23-22 win over defending champions Ireland in the penultimate round has revived faint title ambitions heading into their meeting with France on Saturday.
Ireland remain in pole position to defend their title when they host Scotland, but England’s attacking intent at Twickenham, outscoring their visitors 3-2 on tries, was a huge improvement on their capitulation at Murrayfield.
“Post the Scotland game, there was evidence that the weight of the shirt was on the players,” Borthwick added.
“I believe we need to create a supportive environment. Everybody involved with English rugby is under incredible scrutiny. That’s just the way it is.
“There’s incredible expectation and I’d rather be involved in a team where there is expectation upon it than not.
“But with that I want to make sure that young players are coming into a supportive environment. I want to see their point of difference on the grass.
“Mistakes are going to happen and we are understanding of that, but we don’t want to repeat mistakes. We have got to learn fast.
“The team went through a difficult experience at Murrayfield, reviewed it properly and then addressed it on the training field.
“The players weren’t perfect against Ireland, they made mistakes, but at Murrayfield I thought we made a mistake and then went into ourselves, played a little bit small.
“Against Ireland they made errors and got into the next battle. If there is anything I can encourage the players to do, it is go into the next battle.”
Edinburgh lock Marshall Sykes has been recalled by Scotland for the first time in two years as the squad prepares for Saturday’s Six Nations game in Italy.
Gregor Townsend has called up 24-year-old Sykes for the first time since the 2022 Six Nations in place of Scarlets second row Alex Craig.
Oyonnax’s Rory Sutherland and Javan Sebastian of Edinburgh are recalled as Edinburgh prop WP Nel, 37, drops out.
Glasgow Warriors scrum-half Jamie Dobie is also called back in to the squad.
Veteran forward Nel, who played for Edinburgh against Ospreys on Friday, has not featured in this season’s championship and Scotland are threadbare in the prop department.
Sebastian has been in and out of the squad as he searches for full fitness while Sutherland – a British and Irish Lion in 2021 – was a surprise absentee from the initial squad.
He admitted his disappointment at missing out on the initial pool to Le French Rugby Podcast but is now recalled despite rarely featuring for the French Top 14 side since the World Cup.
Scotland are already without locks Richie and Jonny Gray as well as Cameron Henderson.
Glasgow Warriors centre Sione Tuipulotu has been ruled out of Saturday’s game in Italy because of the injury he picked up in the Calcutta Cup win over England that is expected to rule him out for at least eight weeks.
Darcy Graham is also ruled out and will play no part in the championship for the second year in succession.
Dobie has already trained with the squad in the opening rounds and joins Ben White, Ali Price and George Horne as the scrum-halves in the squad.